SPAM, SPAMMERS and their ASSOCIATES... - page 125

 
PapaYozh:

And the fact that only registered users can write on the forum doesn't bother you?


it's not a bother - it's the right thing to do - because communication should be personified.

When a newcomer approaches a group of people who are talking, they introduce themselves.
but you can watch from the outside without introducing themselves.

how to communicate without a nickname and how to address someone without a nickname? - the topic-starter, the post-writer?

Therefore, it is acceptable to read and use resources anonymously (without registration).
and to communicate anonymously (with registration).

But a moderator of any level should have absolute and non-negotiable authority.

 
abolk:


It's not a problem - it's the right thing to do - because communication should be personified.

When a newcomer approaches a group of people talking, he or she introduces himself or herself.
But from the outside, one can observe without introducing oneself.

Therefore, reading and using resources is permitted anonymously (without registration).
Communication is personalised (with registration).

but a moderator at any level should have absolute and non-negotiable power.

I disagree. Those who warm their ears (don't speak and therefore are not responsible for anything), let them go to hell. Let them keep their thoughts to themselves, and the "general" thoughts of those registered will belong to those registered.
 
joo:
I disagree. The warmongers (who don't speak and therefore are not responsible for anything), leave them alone. Let them keep their thoughts to themselves, while the "general" thoughts of the registered ones belong to the registered ones.


the forum is first and foremost a resource for information.
and information is first and foremost received and then shared.
a resource for information is cross-linked from the entire internet.
making only registered users accessible violates the whole concept of free multi-access to information.
Furthermore, most registered users will not want limited access to their information when posting it.

And don't be selfish.
doesn't have much useful information and useful information still needs to be found.

So let the egomaniacs who think their information is the most valuable, the most useful and the most relevant go away.
for these people, there are the Market, Job, Profile, and Personal Messenger services.

But a properly organized resource should be a symbiosis of anarcho-communist-monarchism.

 
Every problem has several solutions. If you make the "find ALL(!!!) user's posts" function WORKABLE..., then you won't have to run anywhere. Then everything would be in one place and everything would be compact - delete as much as you can without running anywhere. By "working feature" I mean "instant search engine response" to all posts, including "last second" posts. Responsibility for forum presence should be allocated "to all" rather than "one". For example, you could introduce responsibility for "not paying attention to matting" by ALL forum users. Because if the matting will only strain the ear of the moderator, then the moderator works for himself, not for the audience. Therefore. The first thing to "become a moderator" should not record only all comers, and all registered. Because "enforcing the rules" is not only "not violating the rules by myself," but also a rejection of rule violations by other users.
 
joo:
Disagree. Warming their ears (they do not say, and therefore are not responsible for anything), let them go to hell. Let them keep their thoughts to themselves, while the "general" thoughts of those registered will belong to those registered.


It won't work. This is a business. The MC is first and foremost a seller. A vendor will never go out of their way to restrict access to their site in read-only mode.

You want to buy a camera, you go to the shop's site and they ask you to register first. That's it - the shop is bankrupt.

 
DDFedor:
Every problem has several solutions. If you make the "find ALL(!!!) user posts" function WORKABLE..., then there will be no need to run anywhere.
Uncle Fyodor, if you're willing to moderate 24 hours a day and if necessary (like yesterday) go hunting for every post, then you can leave it alone and leave it as it is
 
Mischek:


No way. This is a business. The MC is first and foremost a seller. A vendor will never go to the trouble of restricting access to their site in read-only mode.

You want to buy a camera, you go to the shop's website, and you are asked to register first. That's it - the shop is bankrupt.

Where have you seen a shop that allows visitors to edit information about its products, like you go to BMW's website and start writing "BMW sucks" next to the model description? - I haven't seen that anywhere.

You should not confuse information resources of companies and their forums, they are different things. Look at the header on this page:

Documentation
Tutorial
TA
Code Base
Articles
Working
Championship
Forum
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-
-
+
-
+
+
+

minus sign - information resources that are readable to all comers, but not editable or commentable.

the plus sign - communication resources for registered users and only readable for registered users.

The forum should be divided into two resources of the appropriate types, and the whole thing.

(And of course empower moderators to ban)

 
joo:

The forum should be divided into two resources of the appropriate types, and that's it.

(And, of course, give moderators the power to ban)


freedom for parrots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d6BBleVfLI&feature=related
 
joo:

Please show me where you've seen a shop allow visitors to edit shop product information, like go to the BMW website and start writing "BMW sucks!" next to the model description everywhere? - I haven't seen that anywhere.

You should not confuse information resources of companies and their forums, they are different things. Here's a look at the header of this page:

Documentation
Tutorial
TA
Code Base
Articles
Working
Championship
Forum
-
-
-
+
-
+
+
+

minus sign - information resources that are readable to all comers, but not editable or commentable.

the plus sign - communication resources for registered users and only readable for registered users.

The forum should be divided into two resources of the appropriate types, and the whole thing.

(And of course give the moderators the power to ban).


It's not separable. It's all an information platform.

But even if you start, it will not stop. Then will begin confusion and conflicts among registered users. There will be a proposal to divide registered users into green and blue with different powers and opportunities, and so on to infinity.

 
Mischek:

I propose to give chief public moderator Alexei Mathemat the right to ban, including by IP, without the consent of the administration, in order to respond quickly to the likes of pudoras

And better every community moderator. In more than a year, they have not been seen in the kinks.

It's not normal when all moderators have to spend hours quickly running through all forum threads and delete, delete, delete the endless mat

Two hands in favour.

I'm sick and tired of flooders, spammers and other trash turning the forum into a dump.