Sensation! A profitable strategy for playing beagle has been found! - page 3

 
Aleksander >> :

Eagles or Tails - for a "very long" series - the easiest way to win is to minimize the odds from 6-9 and using double and sixlines (the scheme is about 1-1-1-1-2-2-3-4-5-6-8-10-10-12-14-16-18-20....

Turns out there are ways to win at eagles! And there's even a lot of them, wow. That's a chilling revelation...

 
Aleksander >> :

for a "very long" series of games - the easiest way to win is minimartini starting from 6-9 if the desired outcome (heads or tails) is not achieved, as well as using doubles and sixlines (the scheme is about 1-1-1-1-2-2-3-4-5-6-8-10-10-12-14-16-18-20....

Can you tell me more about it, because not all words and phrases are clear to me:

What is minimartini?

What are dubles?

what are sixlines?

>>what is "starting from 6-9 when the correct outcome is not found"?


>> etc.

 
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Could you be more specific, because I don't understand all the words and phrases:

What is minimartini?

What are dabbles?

What is a sixline?

What is "starting from 6-9 times the correct outcome"?

etc.

Ok... I generally analyze any "Expert Advisor" - in this case the Orliner - from this point of view:

I add the results to a table of outcomes for both heads and tails...

for example we have a sequence of

...OROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROROR...

The TI for minimartingale would be: on which time the correct outcome falls.

for eagles:

О1Р1О2Р1О2О1О1О1Р1О2Р1О2Р1Р2Р3Р4Р5О6Р1О2Р1О2Р1Р2О3Р1О2Р1Р2О3Р1О2Р1О2Р1

Tails 1,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,6,2,2,2,3,2,3,2,2

Решки -О1Р2О1Р2О1О2О3О4Р5О1Р2О1Р2Р1Р1Р1Р1О1Р2О1Р2О1Р2Р1О1Р2О1Р2Р1О1Р2О1Р2О1Р2

drop down to 2,2,5,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2

from them form the table itself

Eagles on the 1st step Eagle has fallen out 4 times, on the 2nd step Eagle has fallen out 9 times...

1 - 4

2 - 9

3 - 2

4 - 0

5 - 0

6 - 1

Tails

1 - 6

2 - 13

3 - 0

4 - 0

5 - 1

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even if the overall result of the system under study is negative - see if you can get it to + with lot schemes (minimartini, dablas, syxlines)

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The "standard" martingale involves doubling at each step and for eagles for example the lot scheme would be 1-2-4-8-16-32 ... but if you don't have that kind of money (64 or more initial lots deposit

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the scheme varies depending on the number of outcomes and the length of TI - the scheme for example

step - stake - lot - win - loss from previous outcome - net profit - step total (stake * P&L)

1 - 4 - lot=1 - you=1 - y=0 - PE=1 - ish=4

2 - 9 - 3 - 3 - 1 - 2 - 18

3 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 4 - -4 - -8

4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 0 -

5 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 0 -

6 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 4 - -4 - -4

i.e. at lots 1-3 the system will give 4 +18-8-4 = 10 starting lots

for Tails it would be possible to start bidding from the 3rd 4th time... in general at (mm) the lot schemes in different variations, steps etc...

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then considering dabls - table of outcomes when TWO times in a row the required result has come up

OROROO(3) OROROO(1) OROROROO(13) OROROROO

and make up the same table of Lots - but for double profits...

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and then I look at the schemes for the sequelines (4-5-6 wins in a row)

only winnings I calculate so - for example for a currency - TP10 SL10 - at five wins in a row, the sum winnings are not 5 to 1, but 31 to 1

31 is obtained from the scheme (1-1-2-4-8) in a step - and subject to the condition that SL = 10 pips - ie, with 5 wins in a row, I get 310bucks at a risk of losing $ 10, and there is a need to meet the necessary combination of results within 40-70 outcomes ... (The scheme of lots for it is approximately 1-1-1-2-2-2-3-4-4-6-8-10-12-14-16-18-20.).

SZZY - when you look at the history of trades I determine the factors that led to maximal steps (wars, nonfarms, hurricanes, sabotage in Nigeria etc... what caused the bounces...

 

I think the algorithm for checking for even or odd is indeed expressed. I'll try to plot the criterion > 16383.

 
C-4 >> :

I think the algorithm for checking for even or odd is indeed expressed. I'll try to plot the > 16383 criterion.


How does the algorithm work on random.org data?

 

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- А мне можно с вами?
- Ну, садись.
Павел кидает - у него 11. Петр кидает - у него 12. Кидает Иисус - у него выпадает 13. Петр:
- Без чудес, Господи, на деньги играем!

 

Now I've just tested the idea with

if( MathRand() > 16383) RND+=0.0001;
else RND-=0.0001;

The charts do indeed turn out quite differently.

OK, I admit the sensation failed.

 
Aleksander >> :

OK... I generally analyse any "Expert Advisor" - in this case a tails game - from this perspective:

I add the results to a table of outcomes for both heads and tails...

for example we have a sequence of


Oh, I get it now. It's a technique for finding the best betting patterns on history, assuming that the pattern of future trades is the same as it was before. I don't drink martinis myself, but if it makes you feel comfortable, why not? But keep in mind, martinis have two bad qualities: high probability of ruin and low bottom line returns.

 
C-4 >> :

I think the algorithm for checking for even-odd is in fact expressed.


I should add, degenerate in practice, in theory it should work.


C-4 >> :

I'll try to plot the criterion > 16383.


Actually, the magic number 16383 (you can also use 16384) is nothing more than 32768*0.5. Where 32768 is the range of variation of the random uniformly distributed numbers of the PRNG (in the case of MathRand() from 0 to 32767). 0.5 is the probability.

 
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Oh, I get it now. It's a technique for finding the best betting pattern on history, assuming that the pattern of trades in the future is the same as it was before.

well, minimartini allows you to turn loss-making EAs into profits.... for example:
"standard" Expert Advisor "MACD Sample" - run through history shows losses - but as soon as you apply 0-0-1-0-1 lot scheme - as on any part of history (at least 20 trades or about 2 months, the longer the period the better) - EA starts to make profit...

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0

0

0

1

6740

0

0

1

1460

total

+8200 pips.

>>I don't drink martinis myself, but if it makes you feel comfortable, why not. But keep in mind, martinis have two bad qualities: high probability of ruin and low total return...

In my practice I use mm in the following way - lots 0.1 - 0.1 - 0.2 - Lock(0.4) or Stop. :-) (0.1 per 6000$ deposit, with a level of 20.0 pips loss from entering the lock is only about 80$, which is "easily" repaid by 4 trades of the next series of MM or manual dilution of the lock ...