not a bad way in principle for an intrade - page 6

 
alexx_v писал (а) >>

why such a sacrifice, 2-3 months? ) I think you can get the answer a lot earlier by analyzing both accounts and trading conditions on, again, both accounts

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if you sold eurobucks 2-3 months ago at 1.6 on both accounts, how could there have been a drain at all! )

>> the stats from both accounts.


deleted the demos

1.6 conditional!

sold at I don't remember what level but the fact that it's higher than it is now!

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SELL

there is a loss taking,

then if you sit at 1.6000 and wait for 1.3000

all days on which CLOSE was higher than OPEN, in a falling trend - and you get minus!

right ?

i.e. subtract the OPEN-CLOSE profit in bulls days for the same period

at the broker with re-open

you will not have 3000p

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at a broker without reopening

you will get net 3000p when you reach 1.3000

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Is that clear ?

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i don't think it's possible to find out without a sacrifice



 
alexx_v писал(а) >>

Why such a sacrifice, 2-3 months?

Look at least a week!

buy normal broker

62.113.84.43:443

  • Login: 1189813
  • Main password:
  • Investor password: hx4qfid (view only)

sell regular broker

  • Login: 1189811
  • Main password:
  • Investor password: b4vjpnw (view only)

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buy with reopening

80.94.84.43:443

Login : 126589
Password : :
Investor : 0jsmrmz (password for account browsing only, no trading rights)

sell with reopen

login : 126591
Password : :
Investor : : bjo4rfs (password for account browsing only, no trading rights)

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YuraZ писал(а) >>

I don't care which method - as long as it brings income!

Yesterday the buy worked ;-), in the cluster we did without USDGEL

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AUD/USD AUD/USD USD 0.6964 0.6962 0.6965 -0.78%
EUR/USD Euro/USD 1.3571 1.357 1.3571 -0.6%
GBP/USD GBP/USD 1.7427 1.7424 1.743 0.03%
NZD/USD New Zealand Dollar/US Dollar 0.6164 0.6159 0.6169 -0.83%

XXXUSD - Asia presses down

USD/CAD US Dollar/Canadian Dollar 1.1623 1.162 1.1626 0.05%
USD/CHF USD/Swiss franc 1.1383 1.1382 1.1385 0.41%
USD/HKD US Dollar/Hong Kong Dollar 7.7617 7.7615 7.762 0.05%
USD/ILS USD/Israeli Shekel 3.5771 3.5646 3.5896 -0.5%
USD/JPY US Dollar/Japanese Yen 101.415 101.41 101.42 -0.58%
USD/NOK USD/Norwegian krone 6.3108 6.3101 6.3114 0.9%
USD/RUR US Dollar/Russian Ruble 26.1845 26.189 0.26%
USD/SEK USD/Swedish krone 7.218 7.2132 7.2228 0.76%
USD/SGD US Dollar/Singapore Dollar 1.4688 1.4685 1.469 0.38%

USDXXX Asia is pushing up

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Asians, they don't owe anyone...

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try to sell intraday eu on a bounce to the euro or on the euro

sell no higher than 3639

short 1st target, 161% Fibo stretched overnight flat

3 day long!

sel worked off

 
YuraZ >> :

deleted demos

1.6 conditional!

sold from I don't remember what level but the fact that it's higher than it is now!

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SELL
there is a fixation of losses,
then at 1.6000 and waiting for 1.3000
all days on which CLOSE was higher than OPEN, in a falling trend - and you get minus!
right ?
i.e. subtract the OPEN-CLOSE profit in bulls days for the same period
at the broker with re-open
you will not have 3,000p
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at a broker without reopening
you will get net 3000p when you reach 1.3000
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Is that clear ?

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I don't think it's possible to find out without a victim.

Yura, really, work it out for yourself, you're a bit misguided, no irony.

It's absolutely irrelevant to the end result whether the balance is fixed daily for that period, or not.

On the account where trades are reopened, the drawback you are talking about will be recorded on the balance, on the other account these drawbacks will be Equity drawdowns and they will be temporary, on both accounts as a result it will be +3000 pips minus swaps... There may be a slight difference, swap points are different but not by much, quotes are a bit different.

 
alexx_v писал(а) >>

Yura, really, work it out for yourself, you're a little misguided, without irony.

It is absolutely irrelevant to the end result whether there is a daily balance fixation for that period or not.

In the account where trades are reopened, the drawdown that you are talking about will be recorded in the balance, in the other account, these drawdowns will be Equity drawdowns, and there and then the drawdowns will be temporary, and on one and on the other account in the end will be +3000 pips minus swaps... here is where there may be a slight difference, swap points are different, but not by much, quotes are also slightly different.

probably

i opened accounts, i posted them above in the thread, in a month 1-2-3 we'll just see what happens

and fix it ! On all 4 accounts output!

and we will see at once

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I hope the branch is not too outdated I will try as much as I can

At the same time I will try to put possible inputs on the "group"

 

Let's look at it another way. If a long is closed at Bid price, it will reopen at Ask price. So, the reopening reduces the profit by the whole spread. Or am I mistaken?

 

People, people! :) you will kill me :)

Who cares if you are given/received 1 quid (for example) in cash or cashless, roughly speaking :)

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When you reopen a trade, Bid/Ask is used to close it depending on the trade itself, and the opening is a closing rate adjusted by the value of the swap points, fsxo, no extra spreads, etc.

 
YuraZ писал(а) >>

By the way they unfortunately have !!! Positions are closed at night and open at the opening price of the day!

For the medium - long term it's IMPOSSIBLE to trade there!

i had a sell position on the euro! i got a lot of losses!

in spite of a good drop!

i would have opened a real account there!

i would have opened a real account there! for the instrument! but i guess it's not the case with their rules!

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Yuri, I think it's strange to hear those kind of statements from a man with your experience. Do you trust the tester?

Here is the result of the work of an EA that stupidly opens one Sell order on EURUSD at 1.6000 and closes it at today's open price. In the first case, the swap is charged in the usual way on Alpari-Demo server, in the second case - Alpari-Contest, where the swap is charged with the non-swap rollover. Make sure that in both cases the final results are absolutely identical.

Strategy Tester Report
TestSwap
Alpari-Demo (Build 218)

Symbol EURUSD (Euro vs US Dollar)
Period Day (D1) 2008.07.01 00:00 - 2008.10.15 23:59 (2008.07.01 - 2008.10.16)
Model By open prices (only for Expert Advisors with explicit bar opening control)
Bars in history 1078 Modelled ticks 1154 Modeling quality n/a
Chart mismatch errors 0
Initial deposit 100000.00
Net profit 24616.50 Total profit 24616.50 Total loss -0.00
Profitability Expected payoff 24616.50
Absolute Drawdown 0.00 Maximum drawdown 8345.00 (6.97%) Relative drawdown 6.97% (8345.00)
Total trades 1 Short Positions (% Win) 1 (100.00%) Long positions (% win) 0 (0.00%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 1 (100.00%) Loss trades (% of all) 0 (0.00%)
Largest profitable trade 24616.50 losing transaction -0.00
Average profitable deal 24616.50 losing trade -0.00
Maximum number continuous wins (profit) 1 (24616.50) Continuous losses (loss) 0 (-0.00)
Maximum Continuous Profit (number of wins) 24616.50 (1) Continuous loss (number of losses) -0.00 (0)
Average continuous winnings 1 Continuous loss 0

Time Type Order Volume Price S / L T / P Profit Balance
1 2008.07.01 00:00 sell limit 1 1.00 1.6000 0.0000 0.0000
2 2008.07.16 00:00 sell 1 1.00 1.6000 0.0000 0.0000
3 2008.10.15 23:59 close at stop 1 1.00 1.3461 0.0000 0.0000 24616.50 124616.50

 
Valmars писал(а) >>
Didn't fit, supplementing:
Strategy Tester Report
TestSwap
Alpari-Contest (Build 218)

Symbol EURUSD (Euro vs US Dollar)
Period Day (D1) 2008.07.01 00:00 - 2008.10.15 23:59 (2008.07.01 - 2008.10.16)
Model By open prices (only for Expert Advisors with explicit bar opening control)
Bars in history 1078 Modelled ticks 1154 Modeling quality n/a
Chart mismatch errors 0
Initial deposit 100000.00
Net profit 24616.50 Total profit 44158.50 Total loss -19542.00
Profitability 2.26 Expected payoff 372.98
Absolute drawdown 0.00 Maximum drawdown 8345.00 (6.97%) Relative drawdown 6.97% (8345.00)
Total trades 66 Short positions (% win) 66 (66.67%) Long positions (% win) 0 (0.00%)
Profitable trades (% of all) 44 (66.67%) Loss trades (% of all) 22 (33.33%)
Largest profitable trade 3801.50 losing transaction -3068.50
Average profitable deal 1003.60 losing trade -888.27
Maximum continuous wins (profit) 7 (11213.50) continuous losses (loss) 2 (-4747.00)
Maximum Continuous Profit (number of wins) 11213.50 (7) Continuous loss (number of losses) -4747.00 (2)
Average continuous winnings 3 Continuous loss 1

Time Type Order Volume Price S / L T / P Profit Balance
1 2008.07.01 00:00 sell limit 1 1.00 1.6000 0.0000 0.0000
2 2008.07.16 00:00 sell 1 1.00 1.6000 0.0000 0.0000
3 2008.07.17 00:00 swap close 1 1.00 1.5820 0.0000 0.0000 1800.00 101800.00
4 2008.07.17 00:00 swap open 2 1.00 1.581745 0.0000 0.0000
5 2008.07.18 00:00 swap close 2 1.00 1.5858 0.0000 0.0000 -405.50 101394.50
6 2008.07.18 00:00 swap open 3 1.00 1.585715 0.0000 0.0000
7 2008.07.21 00:00 swap close 3 1.00 1.5844 0.0000 0.0000 131.50 101526.00
8 2008.07.21 00:00 swap open 4 1.00 1.584315 0.0000 0.0000
9 2008.07.22 00:00 swap close 4 1.00 1.5926 0.0000 0.0000 -828.50 100697.50
10 2008.07.22 00:00 swap open 5 1.00 1.592515 0.0000 0.0000
11 2008.07.23 00:00 swap close 5 1.00 1.5789 0.0000 0.0000 1361.50 102059.00
12 2008.07.23 00:00 swap open 6 1.00 1.578815 0.0000 0.0000
13 2008.07.24 00:00 swap close 6 1.00 1.5688 0.0000 0.0000 1001.50 103060.50
14 2008.07.24 00:00 swap open 7 1.00 1.568545 0.0000 0.0000

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117 2008.10.06 00:00 swap close 58 1.00 1.3639 0.0000 0.0000 1631.50 122921.50
118 2008.10.06 00:00 swap open 59 1.00 1.363815 0.0000 0.0000
119 2008.10.07 00:00 swap close 59 1.00 1.3488 0.0000 0.0000 1501.50 124423.00
120 2008.10.07 00:00 swap open 60 1.00 1.348715 0.0000 0.0000
121 2008.10.08 00:00 swap close 60 1.00 1.3618 0.0000 0.0000 -1308.50 123114.50
122 2008.10.08 00:00 swap open 61 1.00 1.361715 0.0000 0.0000
123 2008.10.09 00:00 swap close 61 1.00 1.3634 0.0000 0.0000 -168.50 122946.00
124 2008.10.09 00:00 swap open 62 1.00 1.363145 0.0000 0.0000
125 2008.10.10 00:00 swap close 62 1.00 1.3599 0.0000 0.0000 324.50 123270.50
126 2008.10.10 00:00 swap open 63 1.00 1.359815 0.0000 0.0000
127 2008.10.13 00:00 swap close 63 1.00 1.3582 0.0000 0.0000 161.50 123432.00
128 2008.10.13 00:00 swap open 64 1.00 1.358115 0.0000 0.0000
129 2008.10.14 00:00 swap close 64 1.00 1.3599 0.0000 0.0000 -178.50 123253.50
130 2008.10.14 00:00 swap open 65 1.00 1.359815 0.0000 0.0000
131 2008.10.15 00:00 swap close 65 1.00 1.3622 0.0000 0.0000 -238.50 123015.00
132 2008.10.15 00:00 swap open 66 1.00 1.362115 0.0000 0.0000
133 2008.10.15 23:59 close at stop 66 1.00 1.3461 0.0000 0.0000 1601.50 124616.50

 
I glitched, I glitched, the shaitan was confused :-) I admit to a fault - my perception... ---