Funny on one hand. All robot customers dream of getting their hands on the grail. - page 8

 
-Aleks-:


Yes, and the advisor will also close unprofitable positions if the probability of a price movement in the right direction disappears.

How do you calculate the probabilities?
 
Vinin:
How do you calculate the probabilities?

Nothing too clever - by indicators. There is a signal to buy, there is a signal to sell, and in between there is uncertainty, with a move towards uncertainty positions are closed or moved to breakeven/trail.

 
-Aleks-:

For me, an FV of at least 15 a year is acceptable.
I
don't thinkI' ve ever seen such EAs...

About the percentage per year.... depends on how much money you have. I will not touch the most important concept of liquidity limits and scalability of trading strategies. Let's just say that let's say you went to the casino and made 50% of your account on roulette on margin. Is it considered a good result? Yeah. Is there any upside? -No. But if you found a pattern, that's another matter. How do you determine whether you found it or not?
If
we are talking about a specific Expert Advisor, it opens positions under certain conditions and if 70% of positions give positive results, then I believe this is a consistent pattern and we need to work with the conditions for filtering the signal and managing the deposit - there is a ToR on these issues, but no performer. What is more I am looking for trend Expert Advisor (ideas) that may reduce drawdown of the main anti-trend strategy.

Suppose you found the pattern that price never breaks through 5 levels in a row, without pulling back at least one level. And we don't know at what level the pullback will happen (because if we did we wouldn't use martin). - Then that's the case when you have to use a martin, right?
You
got it right - there is a condition the execution of which is expected with higher probability than non-execution - that's where the lot multiplier is needed, but not Martin.
I'm just looking for the best way to calculate the multiplier size. My strategies' Take Profit or position close is a floating value and there are some difficulties with it.

Yes, and the EA also closes unprofitable positions if the probability of price movement in the right direction disappears.

(because if we knew, we would not use martin)- so the key "if we knew". Suppose that if such a pattern existed (what the hell?) and you found such a pattern, then everything is simple and without a Martin (I mean not necessarily the classic, but any shit with a lot multiplier). In this case Martin is stupid and unprofitable, as in all other cases. I'm not going to tell you to think it over, but it's not complicated.

I understand that you're looking for such a pattern natively with the help of indicators and others. I want to check if this regularity takes place looking at tests of Expert Advisor with martin.

However, based on statistics of EAs with multiples lot, it is hard to say if it follows some kind of pattern or not. These EAs are very sensitive to setup and adjustment. Even on a random series of dynamics you can supposedly find a pattern, try to martin, tweak settings a bit and get a nice graph with more trades and better statistics than you have. They do not have any prospects to earn, but the lamer will visually feel that there is a pattern and there is a grail, and he will dig and dig there where there is nothing. So much time people waste.

So to check if there is a pattern with Expert Advisor, we should move it to a fixed lot with interpretation of the pattern in "non-Martingale" way. Further - the study of statistics, properties of parameters, determination of regularity or randomness is a separate issue. I will only say one thing - it is not so easy to find patterns in Forex - "with the eye and the indicator" will not work. I'm 99,9% sure that you find the patterns - it only seems to you, but you cannot check it. IMHO.

PS.

Learn programming, give up martin. I don't want to discuss it.

I wish you good luck.

 
Let's go on like this. In short, a robot wrote to the customer - you are already "colleagues" for life :o)) On the one hand it is good that the area of friends and acquaintances is expanding around the globe. But sometimes it's very tedious to sit in front of a computer all the time doing someone's job - even though they earn money for it. In general, the future is honing strategies in the code algorithms. But sometimes customers teach very interesting algorithms, which inspire the muse of writing.
 
Edic:

(because if you did, you wouldn't use martin)- so the key point is "if you did". Suppose, if such a pattern existed (what the hell?) and you found such a pattern, then everything is simple and without Martin (I mean not necessarily classical, but any shit with a lot multiplier). In this case Martin is stupid and unprofitable, as in all other cases. I'm not going to tell you to think it over, but it's not complicated.

I understand that you're looking for such a pattern natively with the help of indicators and others. I want to check if this regularity takes place looking at tests of Expert Advisor with martin.

However, based on statistics of EA's tests with multiplier lot it is hard to say if they use any kind of pattern or not. These EAs are very sensitive to setup and adjustment. Even on a random series of dynamics you can supposedly find a pattern, try to martin, tweak settings a bit and get a nice graph with more trades and better statistics. They do not have any prospects to earn, but the newcomer will visually feel that there is a pattern and there is a grail, and he will dig and dig where there is nothing. So much time people waste.

So to check if there is a pattern with Expert Advisor, we should move it to a fixed lot with interpretation of the pattern in "non-Martingale" way. Further - the study of statistics, properties of parameters, determination of regularity or randomness is a separate issue. I will only say one thing - it is not so easy to find patterns in Forex - "with the eye and the indicator" will not work. I'm 99,9% sure that you find the patterns - it only seems to you, but you cannot check it. IMHO.

PS.

Learn programming, give up martin. I don't want to discuss it.

I wish you good luck.

Thanks for wishing me luck.

Let's say we know that the MA channel will be broken in the opposite direction - it has always been so, why don't we act against the trend using a martin (other multiplier) - after all the occurrence of the expected event tends to 100%, another thing is that it is not clear when it will happen in time. I believe this is a pattern. Or if the bar closed behind the 30/70 RSI level, there is a high probability of further trending...

 
SAASA_IVANOV:
At first they thank us that we have done the right thing by the strategy. But then they disappear. They seldom get in touch with questions.

Yeah, it happens. Recently I put a dude into his hedging Expert Advisor,

He tested it for three days and was totally delighted, and when I asked him to pay via MQL5 freelance,

I have already managed to analyze the hedging strategy, and I have already copied the results,

I have to correct something ... how to explain him that the nature of hedging strategy is like that ...

 
-Aleks-:

Thanks for wishing us luck.

Let's say we know that the MA channel will be broken in the opposite direction - it always has been, then why don't we act against the trend using martin (other multiplier) - because the occurrence of the expected event tends to 100%, another thing is that it is not clear when it will happen in time. I believe this is a pattern. Or if the bar closed behind the 30/70 RSI level, there is a high probability of further trend movement...

This is bullshit, not a pattern. Buy an instrument out of nowhere and set a takeprofit. The occurrence of the expected event - taking profit - tends to 100%. The Grail!
 
Edic:
This is bullshit, not a pattern. Buy an instrument now out of the blue and set a takeprofit. The occurrence of the expected event - taking profit - tends to 100%. The Grail!
Especially without any stops (no brakes).
 
Edic:
This is bullshit, not a pattern. If you buy any instrument out of the blue and set takeprofit. The occurrence of the expected event -TPP (Take Profit) triggering tends to 100%. The Grail!

You just said: "The payoff from any trade (cycle of trades) is 100%".

That's the rule of thumb for laning/lavin, no-holds-barred, martingale.

Probably at least 80 percent of all trading accounts are lost by this rule.

 
Vinin:
Especially without stops (no brakes)
Of course! Stops can ruin the whole grail (beautiful balance chart)))