How do I get my money back for the signal if the signal provider drained my deposit 5 days after I signed up for a paid subscription? - page 7

 

I don't understand this world.

the supplier has drained the client's securities along with his and the other 900 clients?

 
trora:

I don't understand this world.

the vendor drained the client's securities along with his and the 900 other clients?

Not exactly.

The supplier drained his account. Subscribers' accounts were drained because they followed the supplier's signals.

So the supplier invested a hundred and fifty bucks and started trading. At first, the signal was free, some unreal number of freeloaders (about several thousand) subscribed to it. Then a fee was introduced and 900 non-greedy ones remained. And then, the account was drained. I.e., purely theoretically, there could have been those who managed to raise something, but then strangled themselves for 30 quid and thus remained in good profit. But, most likely, those who signed up for demo trades, and those who signed up for real ones lost money.

 

Do people not look at the amount of money in the author's account?

i remember i had a demo on hutrade - i raised 2000% in 3 weeks and i purposely sold it in an hour. it turned out that about 20 people had bought it for free without my knowledge and with real accounts... and then they got dumped too... So I'm a bad guy too... I didn't even know about the trailers, and I didn't ask for money for the autosurveys. I'll be smarter now...

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Grey888:

Silentspec is a beauty! The man is trying his best and he is doing a great job! He also does PAMMs apart from signals and he has earned good money for his investors! What has not gone well lately is the case with each "gold" trader, nobody has nerves and brains! They don't give a shit about anybody and try to get the same result, and then we'll see...


https://www.mql5.com/ru/users/silentspec84

"... I am signalling from my account. "Previous account I had
"raised up to $650,000 and successfully cashed out... "

Storyteller :)

2-NDFL certificate - I forgot to attach ithttps://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/12145/page10#comment_512397

 
I even wrote me about this signal, I looked it up, some bullshit, increased risks, like in the casino, due to this all possible profit, i.e. the idea is very simple, which leads to the loss at the first trend, and there is no risk limit, he traded all the instruments, i.e. again, increased risks, and could reach the reversal, but could not, had to throw more money on the deposit, but again, risk.
 

Yes, but there is no good money without risk ((( it's just difficult to find a middle ground

 
Grey888:

Well yes, according to you then it turns out that every shop should do the same - come, take a 5 litre bottle of whisky (for example), leave a deposit of its value indicated by the seller/store at the cash register and leave. Came home, sucked up part of the contents, felt sick (biscuits poisoned), and as soon as the body worn out by alcohol to come to the shop you declare: shit product! such money it is not worth it! I almost gave God a soul for it! etc., etc. and demand a refund of the deposit for the goods already used! Question: do you honestly believe that the money will be returned?

Or a simpler example: You bought a fresh bun, ate it, come to the seller and claim the money paid for it back, saying that the bun, you see, you simply do not like it. It is not good. It's not how you imagined it. Ha-ha-ha! You don't know what you're suggesting.

What kind of delusional examples are you giving?) Wake up, that's how all PAMMs work! If you have not earned, you will not get your percentage. Buns... whiskey... I sincerely believe that if you've been sold a shitty product in a nice package, you should get your money back. And punished. Would you rather suck the shit? Or would you shove it?

Grey888:

Do not forget the MOST important thing- MQL5 will take its commission from the sum you have paid for subscription.

I suggested we leave the commission to the organisers.

The main rule is simple - no one is forcing you to sign up! If you like the rules - you're welcome! Something wrong? It doesn't fit? Too shy? - Bypass the tenth road and do not get involved in a risky process for you and look for other options!

That's why I suspect that the scheme you suggested could only bring a smile to the face of the manager of the resource. Wake up! You do not live in a fairy tale!!!

I don't use a subscription at all.

But for the sake of fairness, I suggest a refund if the supplier has leaked for the subscription period. That would be quite fair.

And changethe main rule - if a vendor does not like it, no one is forcing him to produce useless signals in the hope of getting suckers, clogging up the service. In general, you should also take a deposit from suppliers. There will be more responsibility.

 

you should not confuse pamm and signal.

In a PAMM you entrust your money in management...

Here, you copy some of it to a demo, watch and duplicate it yourself to the real one.

But the idea of clearing the market of rubbish I fully support.

 
Armen:

But I fully support the idea of cleaning up the market.

Don't mix market and signals.

There are no trash signals, provided that it is possible to mix them.

// Unfortunately, the idea of mixing signals has not been supported by this service yet. But if someone mixes them himself - that is his business.

By weighted mixing of a large number of signals (including loss signals!), one can obtain a very smooth and profitable equity on the resulting signal, which is very valuable for investors.

Of course, you cannot mix signals just out of the blue, but you can do it if you have (create) a necessary toolkit.

The only restriction is negative slippage that naturally limits the input set of mixed signals - mathematical expectation in deals must be significant.

 
Armen:

don't mix pamm and signal.

I am not. It's just that the principle of mutual responsibility for the fate of capital, like in pammas, seems fairer to me. You cannot make money on losing money there. You may make money on signals. Don't trade at all if you want.