Pure maths, physics, logic (braingames.ru): non-trade-related brain games - page 76

 
joo:

PS It's a simple puzzle.

The answer is wrong.

This problem belongs to the class of intuitive puzzles with simple solutions -- my favourites :)

Breaking patterns -- learn your brain.

 

The minimum force to move any box if there is no spring is N*K (N is the support reaction).

Obviously, it is harder to move the big box at first. OK, apply a force to the small one in any chosen direction, it starts moving.

The big one will start moving when the spring tension or extension is greater than the minimum force to move it. And it doesn't depend on its stiffness - it will happen anyway, even if the small box is very small.

The answer is m*K*g.

 
TheXpert:

The answer is wrong.

pull on the M ?
 
Mathemat:

The answer is m*K*g.

No.

sergeev:

pull by M ?

No.

 
The challenge for loonies is to solve the same problem if you can change the vector of force arbitrarily.
 

TheXpert:

Mathemat:
The answer is m*K*g.

No.

F = M*K*g

But you have to apply it to a small box.

 
I don't think the spring has anything to do with it.
 
TheXpert:
The problem for loonies -- solve the same problem if you can arbitrarily change the vector of application of the force.

F = (M-m)*K*g.

First, you have to pull the small box with that force to one side, then change the vector to the opposite one.

 
MetaDriver:

F = M*K*g

But it has to be applied to a small box.

Why such a big one? mkg is enough, the small one will start moving and compressing/stretching the spring. Sooner or later it will move the big one.
 
MetaDriver:

You don't take friction into account.

MetaDriver:

F = M*K*g

But you have to apply it to a small box.

No.