If there is no info on ticks in history, where are the ticks in tester coming from?
Thank you, Phy!
Let's be specific. The history has only 4 types of data:
- Open
- High
- Low
- Close
Accordingly, some "specialists" say there must be 4 "ticks" in M1 bar.
Wrong! Check just these yesterday's bars
| 2009.07.27 | 0:01 | 1.4195 | 1.4196 | 1.4195 | 1.4195 | 3 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:02 |
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1.4196 | 1.4192 | 1.4195 | 18 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:03 | 1.4194 | 1.4195 | 1.4194 | 1.4195 | 2 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:04 | 1.4194 | 1.4194 | 1.4192 | 1.4193 | 6 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:05 | 1.4192 | 1.4192 | 1.4186 | 1.4187 | 12 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:06 | 1.4186 | 1.4187 | 1.4184 | 1.4185 | 12 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:07 | 1.4186 | 1.4187 | 1.4185 | 1.4185 | 6 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:08 | 1.4186 | 1.4186 | 1.4184 | 1.4185 | 10 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:09 | 1.4184 | 1.4186 | 1.4184 | 1.4186 | 7 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:10 | 1.4185 | 1.4185 | 1.4179 | 1.4179 | 11 | |
| 2009.07.27 | 0:11 | 1.4178 | 1.4180 | 1.4177 | 1.4178 | 27 |
Please go to Tester, EURUSD, M1, from July 27 to July 28, put it on Every tick, Visual mode about 10 (low speed), and count the ticks (changes in price).
Some of them have 1 tick ( 0:03 ), but some have 12 ( 0:02 ), and some even 17 or 18 (00:11).
The last one is very interesting. If it is only 3 pips in value, why on earth there was a need to still preserve 17 ticks in it?
This obviously shows that the tick information is somewhere in the MT4 program. And the Tester has it.
The next question is whether this info is "real market ticks" or faked, "invented" (as CloudBreaker says in our thread: "Do banks control..." started a few days ago.
If they are faked by the computer, why fake 12 or 17 if it is easier to have 4?
Thank you, guys, for explaning it all.
Lifelover.
IMHO, The ticks are randomly generated using a built in algorithm which randomizes the random number generator. But this might not be the same as that we use in our experts MathRand(); And if MT4 were to preserve so much tick information, they would as well provide us with lower timeframes like 30 Seconds or 15 Seconds...
IMHO, The ticks are randomly generated using a built in algorithm which randomizes the random number generator. But this might not be the same as that we use in our experts MathRand(); And if MT4 were to preserve so much tick information, they would as well provide us with lower timeframes like 30 Seconds or 15 Seconds...
Thanks, ananth85?
Your point about 30 sec and 15 sec is taken, but is easily understood. They just accept the lowest TF as 1 min. That is it.
As far as the ticks are concerned, if it is random (for imitating the market moves of price?), why 17 ticks for 3 pips and sometimes 1 tick for 2 pips?
Does it mean there may be 70 ticks, 100 ticks? Who sets the limits of randomization?
Lifelover
The number of ticks created by the interpolation algorithm depend upon the average volume between the bars. The higher the average volume, the greater the number of ticks that require to be synthesized.
CB
The number of ticks created by the interpolation algorithm depend upon the average volume between the bars. The higher the average volume, the greater the number of ticks that require to be synthesized.
CB
Thanks, CloudBreaker!
This seems to be true and explains the question.
This is the fifth element in the history.
The more the volume (in the history) the more ticks simulated, and they are all "invented."
I appreciate your help and knowledge.
LifeLover
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If there is no info on ticks in history, where are the ticks in tester coming from?
I am not blind. I am serious.
The history file contains only Open, High, Low, Close and Volume info.
When we test the EAs, we see ticks. And we see the price TICKING up and down even on M1 time frame.
When I asked the Forum, specialists said, these are fake ("invented") ticks - they have nothing to do with the real market ticks at the time it happened.
So the question is where are these ("false," "invented," "fake" or "not real") ticks coming from?
Where is the generator of the "fake" ticks in MT4?
How is the MT4 program filling the spaces?
Thanks.
:)
Lifelover