Regularity or Randomness - page 22

 
Andrey Gladyshev:

A remark off-topic. It's better to write a new comment than to correct something. It's not immediately clear where something is...

The previous pause was too long, that's why I wanted to use the correction
 
aleger:
The previous pause was too long, which is why I wanted to use the correction

I don't mind corrections, it's just not clear who corrected what.

 
Yousufkhodja Sultonov:
There is no randomness in the markethttps://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/307935/page44
With all due respect, but the market itself and its nature of movement does not allow you to say so. Whether the market is random or not is determined by the system of market movement analysis itself.
There are literally a few basic characteristics of the market. Some suggest randomness, some suggest that the market is not random. The time to realise random fluctuations in the market tends to infinity, the time to realise non-random movements tends to zero. That is all it takes to drain the crowds of speculators and still remain somewhat non-random and random at the same time.
That is, maintaining liquidity to be relatively stable.
 
Martin Cheguevara:
With all due respect, but the market itself and its nature of movement do not allow you to say so. Whether the market is random or not is determined by the system of market movement analysis itself.
There are literally a few basic characteristics of the market. Some suggest randomness, some suggest that the market is not random. The time to realise random fluctuations in the market tends to infinity, the time to realise non-random movements tends to zero. That's all it takes to drain crowds of speculators and still remain somewhat non-random and random at the same time.

If you kind of turn it around and rephrase it, it comes down to this,
to make the market seem random to us mere mortals.
Or rather, to make it seem that way to us.
So to speak - a pseudo-random market with hidden patterns.

 
Martin Cheguevara:
With all due respect, but the market itself and its nature of movement do not allow you to say so. Whether the market is random or not is determined by the system of market movement analysis itself.
There are literally a few basic characteristics of the market. Some suggest randomness, some suggest that the market is not random. The time to realise random fluctuations in the market tends to infinity, the time to realise non-random movements tends to zero. That's all it takes to drain crowds of speculators and still remain somewhat non-random and random at the same time.
But there is His Majesty the TREND, which determines the possibility and the value of potential and actual profit.
 
aleger:
But then there is His Majesty the TREND, which is what determines the possibility and magnitude of potential and actual profits

Yes, but people are usually in a hurry. Everyone sees beautiful reversals and anticipate the trend.
But more often than not, seeming reversals remain seeming. And the real reversal will take you a bit longer.
And only then there will be a reversal.
And I am not arguing with the trend, it is profitable.

 
Andrey Gladyshev:

Yes, but people are usually in a hurry. Everyone sees beautiful reversals and anticipates the trend.
But more often than not, an apparent reversal remains an apparent reversal. And a real reversal will take you a while.
And only then there will be a reversal.
And I am not arguing with the trend, it is profitable.

This is why we need an appropriate system when working with trends of various types and kinds. As well as constant monitoring of the emerging profit, balance and imbalance.
 
aleger:
But then there is His Majesty the TREND, which determines the possibility and size of potential and actual profit

But then there is His Majesty Flat, which determines the possibility and magnitude of the potential and actual profit.

 
Макс:

But then there is His Majesty Flat, which is what determines the possibility and magnitude of potential and actual profits.

Yes, that's right. It's in a flat, and it's those who will sell out that are being hoarded. First one will get dumped, then the others.

 
Макс:

But then there is His Majesty Flat, which is what determines the potential and actual profits.

And what prevents us from correctly Identifying and Determining both, and making Profits without allowing Losses from one and the other!