FIR filter with minimum phase - page 2

 
Off-topic, but it's hard to understand why Porksaurus doesn't get his ban taken off...
The man has done more than very many...
Banned for a couple of days and that's it...
 
It was a demonstration: That's how we're self-directed. And let there be no doubt about it. Amen. )))
 

Back to the subject.

What's in this MA for you? At least give me a hint, what do you want to do with it?

I'm not being facetious. I'm really curious. Maybe I'm missing something...

 
Peter_Zabriski:

Возвращаясь к сабжу.

What do you want with this MA? Give me a hint, what do you want to do with it?

I'm not being facetious. I'm really curious. Maybe I'm missing something...

OK, I'll describe it from the beginning. First of all, it's not MA, it's a bandpass filter. What's it for? To build something like this:

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art7_i17.pdf

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art4_i18.pdf

it's described very smoothly but what about the lag?

 

Right. Sorry - not interested. It's schizo. IMHO, of course.

Otherwise, yes - who's stopping it. It's a fun experiment in common sense - can we play for money?!

 
gara:
Peter_Zabriski:

OK, I'll describe it from the beginning. First of all, it's not MA, it's a bandpass filter. What's it for? To build something like this:

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art7_i17.pdf

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art4_i18.pdf

It's described very smoothly, but what about the lag?


Look for replicas on AlexeyFX's forum he also writes interestingly about filters
 
gara:
Peter_Zabriski:

OK, I'll describe it from the beginning. First of all, it's not MA, it's a bandpass filter. What's it for? To build something like this:

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art7_i17.pdf

https://www.mql4.com/go?http://belisa.org.by/pdf/Publ/Art4_i18.pdf

It's all very well described, but what about lag?


Don't be fooled. If you can master Matlab, you can master specialized packages for measuring economic data - econometrics, such as EViews, R. There are tons of them.

In econometrics, the issue of filters is a small part of the problems that have to be solved. In econometrics, filters are one kind of smoothing tool and not the most used. There are also regressions in an awful variety, wavelets, splines. But solving the smoothing problem is the very beginning of problem solving and the easiest. and when you start solving the remaining problems after smoothing, you won't care about lags.

In econometrics you will see what economic data decomposition is, not that childish babble in the link.

 

When it comes to decomposition, the most primitive, most complete and with an extremely atomic level of simplification is PF.

I.e. use not one filter, but several with zero overlap. For example: 1-3, 3-5, 5-8, 8-13.... In this way, the phase will be compensated.

Prerequisite, all filters must be of the same type and order.

 
Peter_Zabriski:

Right. Sorry - not interested. Schizo. IMHO, of course.

Otherwise, yes - who's stopping it. It's a fun experiment on common sense - why don't we play for money?!

faa1947:

Don't be fooled. If you were able to master Matlab, you can master specialized packages for measuring economic data - econometrics, such as EViews, R. There are tons of them.

In econometrics, the issue of filters is a small part of the problems that have to be solved. In econometrics, filters are one kind of smoothing tool and not the most used. There are also regressions in an awful variety, wavelets, splines. But solving the smoothing problem is the very beginning of problem solving and the easiest. and when you start solving the remaining problems after smoothing, you won't care about lags.

In econometrics you will see what economic data decomposition is, not that childish babble in the link.

Thanks for participating in the discussion, but unfortunately good advice can only work if one is mature


Zhunko:

When it comes to decomposition, the most primitive, most complete and with an extremely atomic level of simplification is PF.

I.e. use not one filter but several with zero overlap. For example: 1-3, 3-5, 5-8, 8-13.... In this way, the phase will be compensated.

Prerequisite, all filters must be of the same type and order.


Yes it's about decomposition, but not linear scale of frequencies, but logarithmic one, like here

http://kit-e.ru/articles/plis/2008_09_131.php, is PF referring to the Fourier transform?

 
Peter_Zabriski:

In case you're not aware, the evil Renat banned me, the good Swinosaurs. (No way, boss!)

Wasn't aware of it. I see.