Expert's idea of a double martingale - page 4

 
serler2:

We all want the grail.

The grail should work without human involvement.

For an EA to withstand drawdowns, you need to change 0.1 lot to 0.01 lot. Then you will have eternal profits. 5-7% per year.

Whoa! Men don't know.
 
Mathemat:

I repeat the question posed by Mischek:

What is the beginning of the series?

Another deposit :)
 
igoreremenko:

The idea itself:

Any currency pair, wait for a flat (high-low for the last 24 trading hours<100 pips)

Entry anywhere), but: buy and sell with 1 lot at a time, limit stop-loss 20 pips, take profit 20 pips+spread (this will be for all lots)

If rate went down, sell is closed with profit at Take Profit, buy at Stop Loss. If it is going up, everything is equal.

Now we open sell 1 lot, buy 2 lots, "restrictions" as in the first case, etc.

I.e. on a losing trade we increase the lot by two times.

The only question to the trader: why such a name for this topic?

The idea of the Expert Advisor Dual Martingale

What is the meaning of the word "double"?

 
goldtrader:

What is the meaning of the word "double"?


twice as fast drains. duplicate.
 
igoreremenko:

Let me rephrase this whole thing.

Like in a casino: bet on red (all the time) or bet on black (all the time).

Black is a sell, for example.

Red is buy.

The Expert Advisor works on one account with one pair

One part of it always places a buy position, the other part always places a sell position and simultaneously (within several seconds)

And of course at each new bet, in case of losing this series, the lot is doubled.

The most difficult thing is to understand the maximal length of series of losses for buy and sell. To reduce the risks and losses one should enter e.g. in the middle of this series

It's not difficult. A series of losses on Buy or Sell will reach 12-14 if the position is opened without any filter. And 8-10 if you open a position with a filter. ) All this is easy to check in the strategy tester.
 
igoreremenko:

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Entry anywhere), but: buy and sell with 1 lot at a time, set a "limit" of 20 pips Stop Loss, 20 pips Take Profit + Spread (this will be for all lots).

If rate went down, sell is closed with profit on take profit, buy is on stop loss. If it is going up, everything is equal.

Now we open Sell 1 lot, Buy 2 lots, "Restrictions" as in the first case, etc.

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What prevents you from converting locking to single lot logic:
So, without locking, we have...


Start the Expert Advisor. We wait for the price to pass one level.

If price went down, then buy 1 lot with stop/loss 20 pips.

If the price moved down, we have a stop loss buy, open the last_lot*2, etc.

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Well, in practice we have the dumbest and most primitive averaging with Martinis and no effective order management.

p.s. There are much more advanced tactics on the "gridiron" theme, but no one will share them, of course.

 
Cmu4:

What prevents locking from being converted to single lot logic?

Common sense.

There is nothing useful in the lock state except losses in spread, swap, commission, margin ...

 
goldtrader:

A single question for the graphical TC: why the title of the topic

What is the meaning of the word "double"?


It wasn't about the Grail TS, I got the idea last night.

As for "why is the title" - the first thing that came to mind.

Nothing is the beginning of the series yet)

 
igoreremenko:


There was no talk of a Grail TS, the idea came up last night.

As for "why the title is like that" - the first thing that came to mind.

The start of the series is nothing yet)


In order for the system of shares or re-entries to be profitable, each single entry/exit must be profitable. Moreover, if there is a profit entry (lot increase), then the advantage of this trade should be more significant than the previous one. Stacking unprofitable trades in a chain is just postponing the end)))

So check each entry (paired with the exit itself) individually.

 
Avals:


In order for a system of shares or re-entries to be profitable, every single entry/exit must be profitable. Moreover, if there is a profit entry (lot increase), then the advantage of this trade should be more significant than the previous one. And stacking unprofitable trades in a chain is just postponing the end)))).

So check every entry (paired with exit of course) separately.


I would not say every entry, but every cycle. A market entry is the opening of ONE order.


And one more thing - you don't have to increase your stake... there are several tricks to increase profits without resorting to increasing the lot size.