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Not very convincing, because I don't understand what prices and patterns have to do with it.

Let's say the target for each trade is 100 pips and the spread is 2. The probability of 100 pips profit or 100 pips loss is almost equal, while 2 pips spread is negligible (2%). That's what I mean.

 
Choomazik >>:
Насчет этого вопроса у меня за последние 24 часа появились сомнения. Ситуация 1 - почему ордер закрылся по этой цене?



Ситуация 2:
По одной паре с определонного момента перестали приходить котировки, експерт значит бездействует. Конкретно он должен был закрыть открытый ордер в определенное время. Ордер понятно не закрылся. Результат - стоп лосс вскоре.

Написал вчера мейлы саппорту, пока нету ответа. И если первую ситуацию можна заметить по факту (кстати, какое тут обьяснение может быть?), то вторую не увидеть, если не следить постоянно за потоком котировок. Но это ж уже не автоторговля?

Без обсуждения ДЦ: он забугорный и большой, и если с ним не получится, то ни с кем не получится, как на меня....

The quotes are slowing down before the next market explosion and the Expert Advisor is unreliable, to put it mildly.

I apologize for the simple truth.

 
Mathemat >>:
Да какое это доказательство... Разве что для КРОУФРа.
Тут все проще: кто платит, тот девушку и танцует. Платят заказчики, т.е. ДЦ. Поставщик ("девушка") - Метаквоты.
Наверняка в качестве одного из важнейших требований заказчиков было выдвинуто такое: надо сделать все так, чтобы ничто не было доказательством. В частности, логи - в текстовом формате, незащищенные.
И никто не будет рыться в логах серверной части терминала, т.к. их тоже легко исправить задним числом.
Работайте с надежными и проверенными ДЦ и не применяйте приемов, которые сами ДЦ не любят.

There is an interesting point in Article 4 of the Securities Market Act.

http://www.consultant.ru/popular/cenbum/50_3.html

Dealer activity is a process of executing trades of purchase and sale of securities on its own behalf and at its own expense by public announcement of prices the purchase and/or sale of certain securities with an obligation to buy and/or sell these securities at prices announced by the dealer.

....

In the absence of any indication of other material terms in the announcement, the dealer must conclude the contract on the material terms proposed by his client. If the dealer refuses to conclude the agreement, a claim may be filed against the dealer for compulsory conclusion of such an agreement and/or for reimbursement of losses caused to the client.

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Hence, it follows that the trader must have public access to quotations on the main dealing server of the DC, and if this information is not provided, the dealer must conclude the transaction on the trader's terms and conditions (as the trader wants).

So, gentlemen, make deals as you want and demand them from the Dealer Centers according to the law, which of course has higher priority with respect to the signed Regulations, till the Dealer Centers provide their trade quotations to the public. )))

 
Andrei01 писал(а) >>

There is an interesting point in Article 4 of the SecuritiesMarket Act.

https://www.mql5.com/go?link=http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10148/

Dealing is the execution of trades of purchase and sale of securities on one's own behalf and at one's own expense by means of public announcement of prices the purchase and/or sale of certain securities with an obligation to purchase and/or sell these securities at prices announced by the dealer.


I would advise you not to put the cart before the horse and initially form a correct view of securities by studying the literature. Then you should realise that gold, currencies and CFDs are not securities. The next step is that DTs do not deal with operations with securities. Consequently, there is no reason to study the securities law and there is no reason to apply it to DTs. Ex-military, unlike the Klinskiy and Pepsi generation, reason in this way.
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Andrei01 wrote >>

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The military brain is only good if you walk in a straight line, turn strictly at right angles, know who the biggest enemy is and work from start to finish. )))

Their brains are useless for other non-ideal living conditions and all hope is to get some kind of mother's help. )))

By the way, you cannot even dream with the military Prival.
Someone aptly remarked that the generation with a higher education without a middle class is aggressively advancing. And it is no longer funny.

 
timbo писал(а) >>

A driver without a licence is indeed "allowed" to do anything, because he will be jailed anyway, he is already a criminal, so it costs him nothing to run a red light or cross a double line.


You're thinking soviet style-- the punishment for the most
the worst offence swallows up the rest. Now
the punishments seem to add up. And a sane
criminal (there are some), wouldn't confuse the risk
of earning 2 years, possibly probation, with the sum
3 to 5 on 2.
 
goldtrader >>:


Именно букмекерские лицензии позволяют ДЦ котировать как угодно, фильтруя и задерживая котировки на своё усмотрение.
И со всем этим беспределом Вы де-факто соглашаетесь, подписывая (порой даже не читая) регламент.

Has that been abolished already?
Or has the American sleuths
haven't found out yet and moved on?
They're not ours. They love to sue.
It's their livelihood.

THE FEDERAL LAW

ON STATE REGULATION

ON THE ORGANIZATION AND CONDUCT OF GAMBLING ACTIVITIES

(as amended by Federal Law No. 211-FZ of 24.07.2009)

... ...
Article 4: The basic concepts used in the present Federal law

1) gambling - a risk-based agreement to win, concluded by two or more participants in such an agreement between themselves or with the organizer of the gambling game according to the rules established by the organizer of the gambling game;
... ...
Article 5: Restrictions on gambling activities
... ...
3. Organization and holding of gambling games using information and telecommunication networks, including the Internet, as well as communications equipment, including mobile communications, Prohibited ..

 
goldtrader >>:


Cоветовал бы Вам не ставить телегу впереди лошади и изначально сформировать правильное представление о ценных бумагах, изучив матчасть. После чего должно прийти понимание того что золото, валюта и CFD к оным не относятся. Следующим шагом следует то что ДЦ не имеют отношения к операциям с ценными бумагами, а следовательно изучать з-н о ценных бумагах и примерять его к ДЦ нет никаких оснований.

Yes, this law does not apply to currency transactions... for now... but it does apply to stocks of all kinds. It's a paradox. And where the law enforcement agencies are looking - it is unclear. ))
 
A paradox. And where the law enforcement agencies are looking is unclear. )) The law is enforced when it is profitable. That means profits over sanctions. And as long as that is the case, the law will remain spit and tattered.
 
troot >>:
Закон соблюдается тогда, когда это выгодно. Значит прибыль выше санкций.

Wouldn't law enforcement agencies benefit from this? Don't they need the profits? )))

 

The problem of "freezing quotes" was raised a few years ago. One solution is to control the flow with external programmes. Only rebooting the terminal helps.

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