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Choomazik >> :

Limonovite?

No way.

Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov couldn't take it anymore

It got boring on facebook, but it's more fun here

Russian Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov registered on the social networking site Vkontakte on June 26, according to a news release. He joined the Kommuna group, which brings together more than 50,000 young Communists and socialists. The Communist leader has joined Vkontakte on the occasion of his 65th birthday.

 
- On the subject of "working with your hands is better", Bolshevik ideas sound kind of ominous).
 
brici >> :
- In the theme - "work better with your hands", Bolshevik ideas sound somehow ominous).

Yeah - now we just need to add handcuffs, a battery or, in a pinch, a barbed wire - i.e. restore the Iron Curtain ;) >> (blah, blah, blah - don't speak ill of it ;) ).

:)....

 
VladislavVG >> :

Yeah - now we just need to add handcuffs, a battery or, in a pinch, a barbed wire - i.e. restore the Iron Curtain ;) (Goodbye, goodbye - don't mention it ;) ).

:)....

- >> my computer smells like a lumberjack.)

 
VladislavVG >> :

What do you see as being in the public interest? If the interests of society conflict with the interests of the individual, which takes precedence? IMHO - what you have said about productive and non-productive labour is nonsense, which is operated by supporters of the Marxist theory. You can look up what it is worth in history.) And at the same time you can compare it with the "decaying theory", because the result is obvious: the states remain the leading economy, although they began to "decay according to Marx" even before the socialist economy emerged. And where is this "socialist economy" together with the country? But they are rotting, and even their crisis is much easier than in the remnants of the "great and mighty power". And the speculators (as well as the traders) REFUSE the surplus value in the commodity sector and create their service sector with their own production - what makes you think that this does not carry real value? Or do people have no other desires except to eat and sleep ;).... You'd better think before you write anything ;)...

Good luck.

You should calm down first. You should read carefully before shouting. One more time.

First of all, since we are on the subject of the utility of speculation, I wrote a corollary to the labour theory of value (read A. Smith and D. Ricardo) and wrote "From the perspective of political economy...". That is, these are the basics and nothing more. And then wrote that there is speculation from a neoclassical point of view, in support of your thesis: "through speculation "is created" almost half of the gross value added!"

Choomazik, I personally am an advocate not only of Marxist ideas, but I believe that the future society is a society of socially associated labour.

>> Success.

 
Alex5757000 >> :

You might want to calm down first. And learn to read carefully before you start shouting. Once again.

Firstly, since we are on the subject of the utility of speculation, I wrote a corollary to the labour theory of value (read A. Smith and D. Ricardo.) and wrote "In terms of political economy...". That is, these are the basics and nothing more. And then wrote that there is speculation from a neoclassical point of view, in confirmation of your thesis: "through speculation "is created" almost half of the gross value added!"

Choomazik, I personally am not only a supporter of Marxist ideas, but I believe that the future society is a society of socially associated labour.

>> Good luck.

A Marxist and at the same time a speculator who "only warms his hands" - somehow doesn't look right. If you want the ideological underpinning of your frustration with speculation, you can keep it simple:



Take it all away and divide it all !

P.P.Sharikov

 
Alex5757000 >> :

You might want to calm down first. And learn to read carefully before you start shouting. Once again.

Firstly, since we are on the subject of the utility of speculation, I wrote a corollary to the labour theory of value (read A. Smith and D. Ricardo.) and wrote "In terms of political economy...". That is, these are the basics and nothing more. And then wrote that there is speculation from a neoclassical point of view, in confirmation of your thesis: "through speculation "is created" almost half of the gross value added!"

Choomazik, I personally am not only a supporter of Marxist ideas, but I believe that the future society is a society of socially associated labour.

Good luck.

What makes you think I am shouting ????

You didn't just bring up the "usefulness of speculation", you brought up the usefulness of speculation (it's actually an individual activity) in relation to society ;). And, then, you didn't quote yourself on "fictitious, false value". Is that your attitude or absolute knowledge ?

I was simply pointing out to you that speculation is creating its own service market with its own values.

And then you claim I'm reading inattentively ? Hmm..... maybe.

Good luck...


 
Choomazik >> :

A Marxist and at the same time a speculator who "only warms his hands" does not look right. If you want the ideological underpinning of your frustration with speculation, you can keep it simple:



Take it all away and divide it all !

P.P.Sharikov

+100

 


 
No, Choomazik, you are wrong!!!!!! I am not disappointed in speculation, unlike some people, because I have never seen a nicer way to make money. What I have written does not intertwine with my way of earning money. And it all started with the fact that since the topic of the benefits of speculation was raised, I just wanted to remember the lessons of political economy at university, and just to enlighten some of the geeks here about what speculation is "in economic theory " and about the benefits of speculation for society. Well, as it turns out, everyone on this forum is "smart" and "rich", as you can see, and they know it all themselves! So goodbye, gentlemen, it was nice talking to "you".