What is sporting and non-sporting trade - page 2

 
Mathemat >> :

strelec, here is one page from your magazine:

Time Message
2008.11.27 05:28:58exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:28:52exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:28:22exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:27:58exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:27:34exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:26:42exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:26:34exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:26:30exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:26:01exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:25:49exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:25:43exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:25:36exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:23:42exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:23:35exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:22:58exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:22:48exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:22:45exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:22:07exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:21:49exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS
2008.11.27 05:21:35exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS

You can't call it infinite, but it's clearly a malicious violation as it systematically leads to error 130. You don't need gigabytes to understand that the requirement to take settings (which can be changed) into account has been violated in the source code. By the way, the other two leaders do not have such massive errors.

Gotcha Skeptic, now you will explain what is systematically. And so to infinity. That will be infinity.)

 
strelec, so the other two are prophets. They have foreseen.
 
Mathemat >>:
strelec, значит, остальные двое - пророки. Они предусмотрели.

You can find weaknesses in anyone. Their trading algorithms make perfect sense to me. If you want to, you can fail anyone. Still, last year's record is broken!

 
strelec >> :

.. And still the record of the last year has been broken!

So what of it?) If Batter showed what neural networks were worth last year, then what new has this year's trio brought to autotrading? The fact that pipsing gives zero profit in any weather in any season has been known for a long, long time, at least after the appearance of the article about the graals. Although probably there is something we all don't know about pipsing, so I would be very interested to read an interview with one of the current leaders. I always thought that if an Expert Advisor is profitable on M1, albeit in pips, but without drawdowns, nothing prevents him from getting hundred times more profit (in points of course) on D1.

 
Fduch >> :

It always seemed to me that if an expert trades profitably on M1, albeit with pips, but without drawdowns, nothing prevents him from making hundreds of times more profit (in pips of course) on D1.



And spend a hundred times more time on everything...

 
alexx_v >> :

and you have to spend hundreds of times more time on everything...

Yes. A pipsitter holds a position for 6 minutes at the most. 600 minutes for one position isn't that long

 
Fduch >> :

Yes. A pipsitter holds a position for 6 minutes at the most. 600 minutes for one position is not that long.

>>) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :))

And if 6000 minutes is 1000 times more? :))

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The secret of the grail is found, keep the deal 1000000 times longer than "6 minutes at most" and you will get 1000000 times more profit on the deal, + a scarf from the brokerage house as a gift :)г

 
alexx_v >> :

And the profit would also be 100 times greater? :))

it is easy to prove by mathematical induction that yes =)

 
Fduch >> :

It's easy to prove by mathematical induction =)

The market does not care what method you use to prove something theoretically, that's the point :) but as I wrote (added) above, you can hold a deal for 60000 minutes, of course, but it does not mean that the profit in pips on this deal will also be 10000 times larger.

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As for the question of sportiness-insportsmanship... it's all a lie, there are rules, if you've broken them you're sorry, if you haven't - well done, there's no third one.

 
Mathemat >>:
strelec, значит, остальные двое - пророки. Они предусмотрели.

I guess it's just that strelec didn't provide for it !, I think it's very offensive to the man, especially for the 3rd place

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it would be enough to add to the code something like


pMaxTP=10;


double spred = marketinfo( Symbol(), MODE_SPRED);

double stoplevel = marketinfo( Symbol(), MODE_STOPLEVEL);

double pTP = spred; // this is the minimum we have the right to take from the market!


and then analyze


if ( stoplevel+ spred > pMaxTP )

{

... stay out of the market

}

else

{

pTP will be Take + Spread

}

I think decent pipsators have approximately such constructions in their code