What is sporting and non-sporting trade
Renat has introduced a new term: "unsportsmanlike" trading. I would like to know more about what is meant by this term. In my opinion, there can only be honest or dishonest trade. Dishonest trade is when a bad product is sold under the guise of quality, when a monopolistic market position is used to inflate prices or when prices are set too low to drive competitors out of the market, etc.
Who has an opinion?
You have taken the word out of context and are trying to spin it... A championship is a kind of sport, a competition. In a sport you can win fairly and unfairly. The last Olympics, great performance of Chinese athletes, they were not caught doping. But were all their victories fair, were all the athletes of the right age? But medals to them. That is not fair in sport and that is what is unsportsmanlike. It should be the same at the trader's championship. Did you follow all the rules? Did you win a prize? You like it / dislike it, it is sporty / unsportsmanlike, you get the prize, "Not a thief if you don't catch it".
Here (first post by granit77 on the page) is a suggestion that should suit everyone. I don't think there are any technical difficulties in implementing it. But all arguments with the use of dubious terms like "sports", "fair", etc. will disappear.
strelec, if the ATC organizers themselves did not declare that they are trying to bring trading conditions closer to the real ones, all this trouble would not have occurred. But since they did, it raises natural questions such as "Aren't the conditions at ATS too hothouse? Obviously, the spike in volatility is a paradise for Expert Advisors with small targets that are difficult or even impossible for brokerage companies to hedge. Decent offices have already taken appropriate measures to protect themselves against such EAs. Here at ATC-08 they are also taken, but again they are half-hearted, because the spread does not change during night time.
The main question is still the following: will such strategies work on the real account under current conditions of the crisis?
P.S. Perhaps I spoke too soon about technical difficulties. In the real world the lots of the order of 5, probably, are already manually output. So, we will have to simulate the actions of a real person who withdraws these funds to the market.
The goal of the championships is to popularise MTS
The task of popularisation is to use mts on reals
Reals in fact have their own written and unwritten rules (eg, pipsing does not count).
Championships organizers have tried to create conditions close to real battles.
In fact, the conditions are not quite combat.
That's the difference that's being exploited by the Pipsari.
Obviously, this exploitation is called unsportsmanlike wrestling.
it's subjective,
And subjective is not sporty, unless it's not trading, but artistic gymnastics.
- I didn't run a red light!!!
- WHAT?! - You don't trust an officer!?
For the pipsarians' information. A well-known dealing centre (most of the forum members trade there).
EURUSD -> Stop Level 10.
It was like that at night and it is like that now. What to say about other pairs.
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Added the next day:
EURUSD before noon -> Stop level 10.
EURUSD in the afternoon -> Stop level 30.
The rules don't specify the percentage that can cause the removal of an EA,
it turns out subjective,
And subjective is not sporty, except for the fact that it's not trading, but artistic gymnastics.
It's not about the percentage there (trades bigger than the spread), it's about infinite INVALID STOPS. It turns out that EA does not provide for possible change of environment parameters.
It's not about the percentage there (trades bigger than the spread), it's about infinite INVALID STOPS. It turns out that EA does not provide for possible change of environment parameters.
How to measure infinity with what? How many gigabytes does it take to count infinity. You, as a mathematician, need to know that.
strelec, here is one page from your magazine:
| Time | Message |
|---|---|
| 2008.11.27 05:28:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:28:52 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:28:22 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:27:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:27:34 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:42 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:34 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:30 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:01 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:49 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:43 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:36 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:23:42 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:23:35 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:48 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:45 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:07 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:21:49 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:21:35 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
You can't call it infinite, but it's clearly a malicious violation as it systematically leads to error 130. You don't need gigabytes to understand that the requirement to take settings (which can be changed) into account has been violated in the source code. By the way, there are no such massive errors in the other two leaders.
strelec, here is one page from your magazine:
| Time | Message |
|---|---|
| 2008.11.27 05:28:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:28:52 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:28:22 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:27:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:27:34 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:42 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:34 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:30 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:26:01 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:49 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:43 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:25:36 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:23:42 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:23:35 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:58 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:48 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:45 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err No: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:22:07 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:21:49 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
| 2008.11.27 05:21:35 | exp_Night_Watchman_2 EURGBP,M1: Error open BUY. Err Num: 130 - INVALID STOPS |
You can't call it infinite, but it's clearly a malicious violation as it systematically leads to error 130. You don't need gigabytes to understand that the requirement to take settings (which can be changed) into account has been violated in the source code. By the way, the other two leaders do not have such massive errors.
I don't mind. There is no control of the current stopgap in this version, so what can I do? I could not have foreseen a global financial crisis in September.
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Renat has introduced a new term - "unsportsmanlike" trading. I would like to know more about what is meant by this term. In my opinion, there can only be honest or dishonest trade. Dishonest trade is when a bad product is sold under the guise of quality, when a monopoly position is used to inflate prices or when prices are set too low to drive competitors out of the market, etc.
Who has an opinion?