Programming - page 16

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:

I don't believe it, they have always lagged behind Russia, at least when I went there about 5 years ago.

Now we are overtaking, because of the ruble. We have rates in dollars for almost everyone, you have a lot of rates exactly in rubles.

About 3000 is nonsense, the average is now a bit over 2, maybe 2.5

 
Ром:

For example, very few office workers in Belarus earn less than $3,000.

Oh!? How long ago did you open hh?
 
Комбинатор:
Where are your figures from?

Yes, I asked my friends at HTP. A classmate works there. I don't know the exact statistics.

But if we take that in Belarus the average salary in I.T. is around $1300 - this includes junior and part-time semi-coders. A serious IT specialist must get about three times that.

Probably the statistics doesn't include the salaries of admins in offices which are listed as programmers by job title, but in fact their main job is filling cartridges in printers.

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:

Is it really true that signors in Belarus have such salaries now? I don't believe it, they have always lagged behind Russia, at least when I went there about 5 years ago.

And I completely agree with freelancing. You can sit in an office as a programmer and get more for 5 times less time-consuming work than you would get from freelancing. On the other hand, freelancing is freedom.

ZS: I take by freelancing a general concept, not only on this site. It's self-trading, development for sale, and working with customers who would never stick their necks out here.

Yes, I remember you wrote that you freelance outside of MQL. I've looked at freelancing sites for programmers. The price for them is exorbitantly high and the competition brings them down to the bare minimum.

Here you have to be an unreal master to really make a living from freelancing.

 

And the best way to make money is through algotrading - it's the apotheosis of freedom. )) Freelance MQL's are a pittance compared to that.

But when you see that unrealistically clever guys sitting in freelancing, hands can sink.

After all, people with so much experience in programming and testing bots have not yet found the grail. Then you start estimating your chances and get sad.

But customers don't seem to be alarmed by it. I don't see why not). They still combine stochastics with mash-ups)

 
Ром:

And the best way to make money is through algotrading - it's the apotheosis of freedom. )) Freelance MQL's are a pittance compared to that.

But when you see that unrealistically clever guys sitting in freelancing, hands can sink.

After all, people with so much experience in programming and testing bots have not yet found the grail. Then you start estimating your chances and get sad.

But customers don't seem to be alarmed by it. I don't see why not). I don't understand why.)

And the development of successful strategies and profitable trading has nothing to do with programming skills. I am judging by myself and others.

I'm not a bad programmer, I knew plenty of languages before, and now I'm using five of them all the time. But in 2006 or 2007 (I don't remember anymore) I started Forex trading, I was losing like hell.

I've got an agent I know, an excellent programmer and my working load is twice as high as mine - he's too young). But all of his strategies are loss-makers.

So they are two different things.

 
Ром:

Yes, I remember that you wrote that you were freelancing outside MQL. I was looking at freelancing sites for programmers. I've been looking at freelancing sites for programmers.

Here you have to be an unreal master to really make a living out of freelancing.

I do not freelance on the exchanges - the competition there is steeper than here, most of the Indians are dumping. I tried it, then gave it up. I just have customers who find me on their own and pass me on.

If I have to work like a nigger on a plantation, implementing other people's ideas, I'd rather get a normal job and stay in an office.

Just sit until retirement and work in your own bed ))

And freelancing requires a lot of hard work and no desire to develop your own ideas. It's boring for food