Is trading a zero sum game? - page 2

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nemux:
Yes it just so :)
broker loses to scalpers
 
no hope to win in trading with and without robot
 
It's not a zero sum game on many brokers. The broker wants your trade executed, there will always be a price to buy at or sell at on many platforms. The broker manages the money in a lot of cases and they get their own funds from the liquidity provider. Certain types of trading tend to be zero-sum and others not
 
Yes, I used to think the same way.trading a zero sum game.

I used to search for a safe EA system so that my computer and money would truly work for me, much like the concept of mining.

But reality didn’t live up to my expectations. Most EAs only benefit one side, and that side isn’t mine. Some EAs open large lots but close with only small profits, which benefits the IB and broker. Other EAs use dangerous systems that lead to profits and my money being lost, requiring me to top up to save a margin that's still floating in the negative.

I got tired of that. Things changed when I stopped using EAs and started applying money management and placing SL on every order. While profits may come slowly, losses are also minimized, and our accounts won’t suffer huge losses. Consistency and steady progress are the keys.
 
Indeed, a scalp is preferable for obtaining profits.
 

No it is NOT!

And I'm no talking about Forex, fees, etc... I'm talking about the vast ammount of options of trading out there. Many of us think about in terms of just 1 asset being traded. "If this entity is trading that much of capital in this asset, and it is going down, he is loosing money...  What a dumb ass it his..."

Well, no... YOU do NOT know what he/her/it is doing.  Hedging, Options, the same entity operating from several Brokers at the same time, buying and selling at the same time... It is a movement that never ends, but it will never be a zero-sum game because the operations never stop going forward...

 
Money is not a final product. It is printed (in unlimited quantities), countries' debts grow and they will never be paid off)
 
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Money is not a final product. It is printed (in unlimited quantities), countries' debts grow and they will never be paid off)
Countries debt is not even meant to be payed off. Ultimately the amount of debt a country has, roughly represents the amount of money the people of that country have at their disposal. Or, arguably, you could say, the debt represents the value of all publicly available infrastructure.

In contrast to GDP, which represents the value creation of a countries economics.

And a currency is only valid if the population can pay their taxes with it.

Why is the balance between debt and GDP (to some extend) important? Well, it shows how much wealth can be created with the given and existing infrastructure.

The only thing that actually drives civilizatios is the amount of limited resources can be mined. Like energy, oil, gold...
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