Total wiretapping is being introduced - page 5

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There's actually a build of 1365 out.

The bar has been added to the glass, the tester has been pumped up. And you are discussing some unknown shit.

 
Alexey Navoykov:

You've made a bloody comparison: search queries, links. Do you even understand the difference between text data and an audio stream?

I'm not a left wing passenger in this thread, I understand the difference between text and audio.
Alexey Navoykov:
So what of it? The question was actually about data storage problem, not interception, in case you didn't notice.
The logic is simple, in order to store something, you have to have it (in relation to the data situation, intercept). And as for the problem of storing data - a very, very exaggerated problem. Can you do the math? Let me give you an example - I have 5 mailboxes in Yandex alone. Not counting unlimited volume of mailboxes, each of them comes with YandexDisk - cloud data storage, each with 10 GB. Please note - it's free. How many years of phone calls can you save? Similar cloud (free) storage is offered by many other services.
Alexey Navoykov:
Besides, wiretaps from these foreign callers, as far as I understand, are performed on an individual basis, on a specific person, at the request of our bodies. I don't think any of these companies will agree to mass wiretapping of all conversations. this is nonsense.
It's funny. Grown-up people, and so naive. These days these callers are bugged and they don't ask anyone's permission.
 
Vladimir Suschenko:
I'm not a left-handed passenger on this topic, I understand the difference between text and audio.
The logic is simple, in order to store something, you have to have it (in relation to the data situation, intercept). And as for the problem of storing data - a very, very exaggerated problem. Can you do the math? Let me give you an example - I have 5 mailboxes in Yandex alone. Not counting unlimited volume of mailboxes, each of them comes with YandexDisk - cloud data storage, each with 10 GB. Please note - it's free. How many years of phone calls can you save? Similar cloud (free) storage is offered by many other services.
It's funny. Grown up people, and so naive. These days, they wiretap these phones and don't ask anyone's permission.
Maybe it's a neat way to make the Internet unavailable. Just imagine how much traffic we have to store.... Probably the speed will also drop seriously, because all the activities would have to be written to disk! So it will directly affect us, pings during transfer of orders will increase significantly. I'm giving up internet trading. I don't want to write data from Expert Advisor to the disk so as not to slow down their work, but instead they will write all my data and slow down the connection.
 
Maxim Romanov:
Maybe in this simple way they want to make the Internet unavailable. Just imagine how much traffic they have to store.... Probably the speed will also drop seriously, because all the activities would have to be written to disk! So it will directly affect us, pings during transfer of orders will increase significantly. I'm giving up internet trading. I don't want to write data from Expert Advisor to the disk so as not to slow down my work, but instead they will write all my data and slow down the connection.

There is also the idea of trivial raiding of the telcos. They can't pay for data centres for storage or they do, so they raise their subscription fees and lose customers.

Shares in the operators go down, they are bought up, and then it is possible to seize controlling stakes. Because the state has tons of money and it is easy to give interest-free loans for "Horns and hoofs".

 
Looks like there's a phobia club going on...

 
Artyom Trishkin:
Looks like there's going to be a phobia club...

Indeed it is.

Yarovaya Law IS NOT A DATA STORAGE LAW AT ALL.

Yarovaya Law IMPROVES the government's ability to STORAGE data, and the government has two years to decide what to do. Just in time for the football championship.

But what a reason to make waves! And the timing is perfect!

 
Alexey Volchanskiy:

There is also the idea of trivial raiding of the telcos. They can't pay for data centres for storage or they do, so they raise their subscription fees and lose customers.

Shares in the operators go down, they are bought up, and then it is possible to seize controlling stakes. Because money in the state is dense and it is like two fingers on the pulse of an interest-free loan to Horns & Hooves.

And this is an interesting option at all
 
Maxim Romanov:
And I think there's also internet traffic to be stored, if I've got it right.
Yeah, that's a lot of porn traffic to store. Intelligence will get tired of watching))
 
To put it mildly, I am surprised that this topic has gone public. I am deeply convinced that the intelligence services have always and everywhere collected data about everyone and have not asked anyone's permission. Since the advent of mobile communications, just like landlines, we have all been paying not only for communications, but also for wiretaps of ourselves. And no government, neither in our country nor in the USA, will ask people's opinion on this subject. The opinion of the lamb does not interest the cook.
As for tariff increases, you can think of as many reasons as you like, even if it's a global crisis or a sunspot - no one is going to catch telecom operators by the hand. This is just a very convenient time - a suitable law has appeared :)
 

Voted today for the abolition of this law on ROI although it is unlikely to help since the law was clearly written at the request of the Chekist clan ....... idiocy of course: they will write gigabytes of "Hello Vasya" and it will not help against real extremists....... but for squeezing business very useful and if "interesting" person uses Russian services and operators you can listen to him......... so obviously there is a need to reject russian services and operators who will be required to leak keys and switch to google, telegram, bleep, open whisper - wherever there is end-to-end encryption ....... voice calls are more difficult - either ip telephony or secure gsm or pgp phone on the fly encryption but it is not so easy to set up...... there are fears that all of these are initial steps to tighten the screws even further and when the authorities realize that they cannot read encrypted traffic, they might want to ban services from civilized countries by blocking........ , which is unfortunate and leaves only to go to tor and other deep web....... there is also an opinion that this is a war of power clans, the National Guard is turned into a counterweight to the FSB and endowed with OIA rights, and the security services do not like it and this law allegedly gives them an advantage (comment on this fantasy) ......... also it seems violent violates Article 24 of the Constitution:1. The collection, storage, use and dissemination of information about a person's private life without his or her consent is not permitted. - it would be great if someone from a legal point of view could comment......

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